Chrome Is No Ordinary Browser

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In the beginning Bill created the operating system with browser, and he saw that it was good. On the seventh day he rested………. Fast forward past the stone tablets, telegraph and DOS, to the begining of a colossal change in browsing as we know it.

It has been a busy few days since the surprising and successful release of Google Chrome. From the start most everyone expressed their anticipation of an exceptional browsing experience. Is it bigger? Is it better? Is it more of the same? The answer is a resounding NO! It’s a new story with a whole new plot and I’m glad to be watching it happen.

Google’s comic book approach to this release is a first for software introduction and aptly sets the stage. Simply titled “Google Chrome”, it goes a long way towards describing Chromes features and benefits. At 38 pages it’s a great how-to, but the real meat starts in Part Four, “Security, Sandboxing and Safe Browsing” .

As our own Dave Methvin noted on Sept 1st.,”Chrome’s debut answers a 16-month mystery: Why did Google buy GreenBorder Technologies? I looked at GreenBorder in 2006 and thought it was a great product. Essentially, GreenBorder used some virtual machine technology to isolate programs from the operating system, but still allowed them to talk with the OS in a controlled way. The most useful job for GreenBorder was to “sandbox” a copy of Internet Explorer or Firefox to make browsing more secure.”

This is what makes Chrome stand out from the other browsers. Sandboxing is a relatively new approach to security for programs and specifically browsers. It’s purpose is to keep you secure regardless of what’s happening to your favorite OS. In 2006 Google had enough foresight to aquire this technology and use it as the foundation for Chromes security.

Feature Improvements like Search, Google Maps, and private browsing do more than keep pace with the just released IE 8 and the never ending add-ons for Firefox. Chromes features will absolutely contribute to this popularity of the browser, but they are not the story here. Google Chrome is based on WebKit which is designed for always-on broadband connections and web applications like Google Maps and Gmail. The real story is going on in the background, out of sight. The real story is how Google is incorporating new technology to secure it’s place in a future dominated by SAAS or Cloud Computing (software as a service). Chrome has the advantage over IE 8, Firefox, and Safari because of it’s newer starting point. It will be able to achieve things older browsers aren’t capable of. Without all the bloat Chrome is able to function more efficiently, resulting in faster computing for the memory challenged or older systems.

Chrome doesn’t arrive without some substantial challenges though, and leaping the ActiveX hurdle is one of the big ones. Lots of office applications and Pitstop’s OverDrive program are incompatible without ActiveX support.

Even with these challenges, Thomas Claburn of Information week smacks it right on the head. The days of worring about which is the best operating system are coming to an end. “The desktop is dying, long live the browser.” It’s the browser that’s running the show and SaaS is the promised destination.

I first heard the term SaaS in April of this year at our company meeting. Rob Cheng gave an excellent presentation on SaaS and on PC Pitstop’s plans to be a large part of the changes that SaaS represents. Every day more programs and applications are moving to web based locations instead of sitting isolated on indivdual desktops. This greatly reduces the chance of loss due to crashed operating systems, trashed hard drives, and the never ending stream of hugely successful malware.

The high cost of software isn’t slowing this shift either. While there’s always the open source option, for many it’s not always possible to substitute “generic”. The huge success of products like Overdrive attest to the popularity of free online options

Sorry if I sound all excited, but I can’t wait to see how this Browser War shakes out. Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer all battling for position on a changing terrain is almost as good as Ultimate Fighter or Deadliest Catch. For all we know the major player isn’t even in the game yet.

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57 thoughts on “Chrome Is No Ordinary Browser

  1. And it should not be forgotten that Microsoft is a business, the purpose of which is to make money – as much money as possible.

  2. My old PC – circa 2002 – ran XP Home. I was happy with that machine at the time, considering that the one before that was some seven years younger and just about managed to cope with Win98 … badly.

    I bought my current desktop about 16 months back and it runs nicely with Vista Home Premium. The only problems I have had with it was the installation of my ancient scanner (now absolutely fine after a few hours’ fiddling) and the running of the Myst sequel Riven (and that didn’t really like XP either).

    As I am a real cheap skate I use as many open source programmes as possible (yes, I know I could try Linux as well but I can’t be bothered). Quite possibly a browser other Firefox would load itself and web pages ever so slightly faster but I’m honestly happy with my lot.

  3. RE: CPM. Remember the story that IBM scheduled a meeting with Gary Kildall, the creator of CPM, but that, when they arrived, he was up flying his plane, and, after waiting 45 mins or so, the IBMrs left and sought out Bill Gates, who had just bought for ~$50,000 an “inferior” O/S called DOS? Here’s a link to the “true” story, as told by Kildall’s partner, Tom Rolander. http://www.podtech.net/home/search/CPM

  4. IMHO: I consider Microsoft Windows to be one of the greatest engineering accomplishments in the history of the world, and yes, I scream computer language often, when something goes wrong with my PC. Anyone who has done project management understands that politics, communication, change management, etc., are as important as pieces of steel and concrete, in completing projects. I say that no other single achievement in history has improved communications among the people of the world than has Microsoft, pushing its Windows environment. 1.5 billion people now speak English, a large percentage of whom learned it to interact on the Internet.

    Yes, there are many problems, and many bugs which go unfixed. Having worked in Software Quality Assurance Testing for a while, I know that many thousands of bugs are in the database, but are never going to be fixed because it is too expensive. Consider the number of permutations possible in say, 1GB of RAM, any one of which can crash the very unforgiving operating system. How much is 2^30 factorial? Is that the correct number? This is why Tech Support so often says, “Just do a power-on reset”, rather than attempting to diagnose the problem.

  5. Let’s face it. Chrome is new IE7 is old. Newer is faster & better. It has a few kinks, but what doesn’t when it is new. Microsoft should be so lucky to have as few kinks when they intro a product. And the best part is Chrome is free, Microsoft products seldom are.

    Lest we forget the Vista disaster! Windows 7 will not be free. Where is the compensation for those that had Vista crammed down their throats only to get the short end of the stick later! Microsoft translates into Pay ….. Pay ….. Pay!

  6. I had a Tandy Color Computer I. 16K of ram.

    I turned it one, and almost instantaneously it is was ready to use.

    But the tape drive took a while for other programs to load. The floppy wasn’t much faster. But it did load fast and was ready to use.

    Too bad you have to WAIT for drivers to load….

  7. I think google chrome is a great alternative to internet explorer and it is free. I have been using it for a few months now and haven’t had a problem. I think the battle is on and I know google will try its hardest to win it.

  8. -Merlin: FINALLY! A voice of (obvious) reason, amid a formidable morass of ridiculous M$-propaganda-BS! Thought I was gonna ‘lose my lunch’ if I had to wade thru one more posting of… -well, you get the drift, so again: Thank You!
    -Chrome: I understand the necessary-evil of beta testing, but I don’t have the time (or blood pressure) to waste dealing w/bugs and annoyances which should have been caught during the ‘in-house’ testing… (ex: FF3, XP’s SP3, etc) So this time I’ll wait a bit first for the more obvious garbage to be fixed/updated (tho it does sound promising).
    >;]

  9. That gates got involved at all was a fluke. IBM wanted CPM for the OS, but the guy was out of town when they showed up and his lawyer told the wife not to sign the non-disclosure agreement IBM wanted before talking about their PC project, so IBM left went back to Micro-soft and asked if they could go find an OS, they bought DOS which was a direct rip off of CPM and on the advice of Bills daddy leased it to IBM. All the innovations since then have come from non MS people who were either bought out or ripped off for their work. There have always been better alternatives to anything Micro-soft offered BUT MS cut the deals for getting on all PC’s right in the factory and all the new first time buyers didn’t know anything or any better or that there were other choices, can we say Monopoly by force? Ironic thing is that Monopolies are illegal in Washington State and even if you file a complaint it will never move forward what with all the pre-paid political protection.
    We can continue to see MS rip off anything new that’s better and find it in that never ending stream of critical updates that flow out of MS like the mighty Columbia River.

  10. Actually, IE sucks, and Firefox sucks, and Opera sucks. I don’t like any of these web browsers. I kind of liked Links by Mikulas Patocka, but you could only use that for reading. I really hate computers. These things are just so hard to use and stupid. I hate Macs. I hate Linux people. I hate the evangelism of Linux people. I hate how intelligent people get involved in computers when they could be doing something more important with their lives like helping to fix our government and judicial system.

  11. I was initially enthusiastic about Chrome, but now I am back with IE. However I made a lot of bookmarks with Chrome. Has anybody come up with a way to transfer bookmarks from Chrome into IE (or into FF or Opera, so I could then use THOSE bookmarks to transfer into IE)? Thanks

  12. I found chrome was making my C drive go beserk in a patterned rattle and when I uninstalled it did not replace the settings that it took from my internet explorer browser and I had to search the net for answers to try and get it right which I have, almost.
    Other than that I found it difficult to find, (if there is one) buttons to go back or close a page without closing the browser, often having to reopen and log back in to a secure site.
    Cheers Neilium

  13. Chrome may be cool. So are those little icons that all the kiddies fall for and get viruses all over someone elses computer (that I get paid to remove).

    But still, I trust Google with my privacy about as far as I can throw my pick-up truck on a good day.

  14. Isn’t freedom of speech wonderful? I mean we have the opportunity to voice our opinion what the subject or to hold our peave and just listen.

    I read about 60% or so of the post here, I usually don’t say anything, but I would like to speak up here.

    Ron and Laura B, I think you two have said just about all there is to say about History, Bill Gates, Microsoft and all the other companies / people out there that have made what we are doing right now (being on the web, reading and posting our opinions) possible.

    Someone mention IBM and what might be if they had of been the ones to have the lead (so to speak) that Bill Gates had, Well I am from a school older then that Which Ron spoke of. Floppy drives hadn’t even been thought of when I started out with this, so I can say that if IBM had paved they that Bill Gates has managed to pave, most of us wouldn’t be on the Internet doing what we do so much!

    As for Google and Chrome, Well as some of us has already acknowledged, It’s BETA! I am sure Google wants it to be all it can be and then some! 🙂 So lets see what time brings us, after all time as brought us where we are today.

    That is MHO, Dean.

  15. Again all these complaints about Microsoft. I am very happy with my Vista Ultimate SP1 as well as Word and Outlook 2007. All of those work beautifully. now along comes IE8 and even the Beta 2 version is fantastic. I can’t wait for the release of the full version. IE8 is notably faster that IE7 was and everything about it works great. Even though I am very happy with the Vista that I got within a month of its original RTM, I have already told M/S that I would love to be one of the testers of the Windows 7. All it took was to order a machine that met the suggestions for Vista and I haven’t had the first problem. Of course it will be nice when I can watch Netflix on line movies again, but with a 4 at a time subscription and a Blu-Ray drive I usually have enough to keep me busy. That is the only drawback I’ve found so far with IE8; everything else is just as it should be.

  16. for all you happy billgaters outhere (don’t worry be happy) windows is trash and very poor.

    as for chrome if and when it can be ran on linux. i may give it a try. yes may???

  17. Yep, I remember my TRS-80 model III, bought at Radio Shack, machine language, basic, programs on a cassette. I believe it was really the first company that made home computing available. Of course, we had Commodore, Atari, and other unknown,but our Computer Club included mostly TRS-80 guys. Then IBM, with all their moolah introduced their own little PC, not as good as the others, but because it was IBM, and because they had all kind of pubs., the general public jumped on the bandwagon and swore by IBM. Then Bill came along, and with his know-how, good marketing, really made home computing simpler and also cheaper. Except for his overpriced programs. Of course, if you look at all the programs available now, they are overly expensive but then they are priced according to the price we accept to pay…Enough ranting…I’ve tried Google Chrome and like Leigh mentions, cannot remove a single visited site…Heck! I cant even close it with the X. I have to go to QUIT for it to close…I’ll keep using Firefox and maybe try Chrome in a few weeks. As for Google for a Search engine, it does not always give you what you want. It seems that it gives you more info on terms dealing with businesses: I’ll make a search for canadian contents but still end up with businesses in Jacksonville. I’ll make searches in French, I’ll end up with businesses in France and the US even if I select Canada…But I’ll live with it although it is quite time consuming. One more comment: Thanks to Bill Gates and people should quit MS bashing as most companies doing the bashing just want their part of the market. You want a bigger part of the market…Give us a good product at a reasonable price and customers will beat a path to your Gates.

  18. What supprises me is there are only a few brousers available to users, surely with the proliferation of the web there should be many new cutting edge companies wanting to get in on the act and producing more novel aproaches to the interfacing with the web.

  19. Another thanks to KeithJ for saving me about 4 hrs of dancing the Nazi polka with another piece of intellectual property that was supposed to rock my world. My burden – no wait, that’s not strong enough – my curse is that I’m a gadget freak without a single tech gene in my entire DNA matrix (see, I can talk the talk… ). It’s been the same with cars, with home entertainment systems, sex toys, juice blenders, you name it. But I’m honest with myself. I take the pills and humm the mantra and have not tried multi-tasking since the chainsaw incident. Knowing my limitations, I rely on the kindness of strangers, especially in the world of all things cyber. And I gotta tell ya, with very few exceptions: pcpitstop, softcore porn and that Canandian pharmacy, when it comes to computers I’m the GREENMILE mouse – old and weary and still, no end in sight. I’m a writer who switched to a computer for 2 reasons: full-screen editing and push-button printing. I don’t play games, I don’t “surf the net” and I don’t date (not since that guy showed up on my doorstep convinced I was a twelve yr old foreign exchange student from Bangkok). I’ve been scammed, spammed, googled and phished. I am convinced, if I’d kept working on a typewriter I have six bks on the mkt by now. But there’s no goin’ back. A year after making the switch I got $25 bucks for my $900 IBM Selectric at a yd sale in south Dallas. I’d still be living in DOS, but the printers won’t support it. The last system that made any sense was my P-3 with Win98/Office 97. Loved the little MS Word assistant that is no longer available because Gates wouldn’t give up a couple of bucks to the old guy who’s got the brain in the bottle and owns all things Einstein. But I digress. I have two desktop computers (only one “online”) and three laptops — two 486 Thinkpads which I use constantly and a $2300 gunboat I haven’t switched on since a month after I bought it… battery life: 8 minutes. Had to hose it down to keep from melting the formica on my kitchen table. And what’s up with the flat keyboard? How does anyone write like that? As for MS, IE, XP and BG? No one makes $40B before they’re 50 w/o some serious larceny. I mean, the NIKE guy hasn’t made that kind of money selling $130 sneakers he bought in Bangledesh for $6 bucks. When I buy $400 software to find I can only install it twice; chased across the internet like a car-jacked SUV, hounded for constant re-registrations. Saddled with a popup blocker that blocks everyone else’s popups but not their own constant stream. What’s not to like?
    Which is why my wife won’t let me travel to Seattle. My solution? Break out the Bic pens and legal pad and cough up the dough for a T1 connection. Now, I’ll just clk “submit comment” and yep, there it is: blue screen.

  20. I tried Chrome with the expectation that it would be a good product. Wrong, I am used to seeing the File, Edit, View, etc, buttons at the top and being able to choose options from them. The Most VIewed page reminds me of Opera which I find to be alot better than Chrome. For my use as a developer Chrome just doesn’t hold up to the task. Definate loser!

  21. Everyone is Bashing Windows and Bill, werent you all that same folks who waited in line for hours to get the newest version of Windows when they were introduced? We can all go buy Apple computers but…. There is still a boat load of PC’s being bought up over the Macs..

  22. Chrome is great. My default browser in IE8, however, if I cannot get a web-page up quickly I use Chrome: for some reaon it is icredibly much faster. However, they need to out in something to lose the history though.

  23. These blogs obliterate the PC PitStop article message. Apparently Chrome isn’t all that fast, if even; leaves crud on your PC when uninstalled; and uses cloud computing technology, which should be known as “dial-it-up-by-the-drink” (because it will turn your PC into a pay phone booth.) May be more secure than Firefox or IE-8. Avant and Opera have fans who like them more. GREAT JOB GUYS.

  24. # Bruce Says:
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:01 am

    “In the beginning Bill created the operating system with browser, and he saw that it was good.”

    Ummm nope he didn’t.

    He saw Netscape and saw the future, then proceeded to do everything in the book, including breaking the law to displace Netscape, with a very bad and buggy browser that was not good 😆

    I concure with you except that it was not netscape that he saw it was the good old “Mosaic”, that was the platform everyone has since then tried to emulate

  25. Bill Gates’s primary skill proved to be business – he took over smaller companies who had developed good things in an isolated way and made them part of the corporate Microsoft. Remember when he started out IBM thought they ruled the world and would keep computing for the business elite and power users. Bill turned that concept on its head. He didnt invent DOS or the GUI but he did mainstream them.
    With success comes power and normal laws dictate that power corrupts – this is what is happening at microsoft now – the corporate directors see a monopoly (just as IBM did all those years ago) which is why new kids like Google make headway – they are bringing free online software to the masses via a browser. However google collect information too – they have reached the success stage and are gaining power its only a matter of time before the corruption creeps in – if it hasnt started already. Google would have you believe they invented internet searching – of course they didnt just as Bill didnt invent an OS — they are simply mainstreaming in the same way.

  26. I had to completely re-install windows, it took my OS to peices, its no where near ready. Not even close. LAst time I install any kind of Beta, it took two days out of my life sorting the mess.

  27. There is much in what you all have said, or pointed out. But do remember, what each of us says is our own personal experience, or opinion. It does not mean that the other guy is wrong. The facts that speak for themselves is, (without out, kicking Gates eternally) ……………… MS had it their own way for too damn long ……………….. for whatever reason ! It is good to see that there is competition. We all seem to have forgotten the continuing MS “Service Packs” for nearly every OS that they ever developed ……….. for well nigh decades ! All their “security patches” covering security bolt-holes (Sometimes you could drive a truck through!) created by either hasty or “shoddy” or programming, (or maybe a bit of both ?). Ever tried using MS Help Desk, “Help” or FAQ’s ?? No, I am sorry to shatter perceptions here, for some of you, but what ever Bill’s current charitable inclinations are, his firm MS has never been easy to deal with, by ordinary consumers, nor have they been “all that “user-friendly” …………. if and when you have a spot of bother or difficulty with an OS or a Programme Package (which, in the UK used to cost many hundreds of £’s). You simply got referred to a “Forum” ………………. and we had to pick out way & sort out the issue ourselves ? I have downloaded Chrome on a new PC running Vista HP and an older guy running XP SP2. For me there is no doubt by actually trying it our, that it is a faster, cleaner & sharper browsing experience. Do remember that it is still in BETA. The uncluttered upper address bar area is a pleasure ………… sans minus crap that most of us do not always need or use. If you click to the “spanner” logo you will find much, (but not all) that you may need for non-commercial browsing. I find that fact that Spell Checking is not an easy option a bit of a downer ! If you use Google Mail, you can store your Gmail Inbox logon on the upper visual Bookmark Bar and simply access your Mail from the one page ………….. your Chrome Browser or Internet Home page ………….. just a click to check/ or send Emails. Enough…………. so long guys.

  28. Downloaded Chrome on recommendations here. Never did get it to display Flash headers on web sites or flash files on any web sites. Running a new Dell Vostro that works great using IE-7.

  29. I haven’t tried Chrome and won’t do for a while.
    Let it get tweeked first and get rid of the early bugs.
    But you geeks must realize there is an other PC world out there beside yours. I venture to say that over 40% of PC’s out there by the general public is over 4 years old. They are not touching Firefox, the learning curve is much to steep for a general user and all these add ons are confusing to them. I just repaired a PC vintage 2000 running Windows 98 with 128 RAM memory and dial up. The CD Rom needed to be replaced. They guy is satisfied with what he has. That world of plain utility PC’s is still very very large. They are thankful to Bill, it helps them do there bank accounts on line, stay in touch with their children via e-mail and can surf the web in their own slow way. They do not care about the browser war, the want easy, simple programs they can follow and operate.

  30. Yes…Uninstall chrome and it does leave behind bits and pieces trying to contact base. Google does drops some tracking cookies in your system which get caughtup in spyware scanners. So….Bill is an honourable man and MS and Google…honourable companies.

  31. How anyone could say “all mostly MS is and always has been is crap” is too young to remember what we had to work with when the PC first came out. Before Windows 1, or for the majority version 3 in 1990, basic, fortran and a few other specialized languages were the way computers wer taught to interface with people and interefaces were typically in the form of specific answers to questions. Yes. No. Up. Down. etc

    Sorry for venting and getting so far off subject, as for chrome, I tried it as I am a fan of Google products, found that there are just too many good browsers out there for me to be a “beta” tester, and uninstalled it.
    Slow, still finding parts all over registry, did not find it offered anything my favorite browser offered but actually less. Will wait until I read better reviews as knowing Google they will get it right.

  32. How great to hear others giving credit where credit is due. For the past few years, it seems that is has been “oh so cool” to Bill-bash and MS mock.

    Nobody ever said Microsoft or Bill Gates were perfect, but wow, have they changed our lives. I remember typing programs from a magazine to give my Commodore 64 a wordprocessor. I thought I was at the height of home technology. I was on top of the world! LOL

    Tonight I did all my foodshopping online. All my bills are paid online. I follow my favorite tv shows and theorize with other Lost and BSG addicts across the world. I even play games with them.

    I watch TV on my computer – the picture is so much better than the one on my TV. Ditto for the sound of music I play on my computer.

    My computer reads my email to me; books to me as I go about my tasks, and it reminds me of appointments I might otherwise forget. It keeps me in touch (with no charge) to my family scattered between the east and west coasts.

    If I want to know anything about anything it is only a wikipedia or google away. Whether it is directions to a new friend’s house, how to fix a leaky faucet or a slow hard drive, what foods have which nutrients and how can I combine them to make a quick and easy dinner; what a philosopher thought about free will, explanations about the nature of the universe, what to do to sleep better, or find out what other books an author has written, it is all mine to know – here, today, in my own home. I don’t even have to put on shoes. lol.

    Bill Gates and Microsoft have changed our lives. (Steve Jobs and Apple too, but face it, the pc is more available to the masses. Perhaps that is why people don’t mock Jobs and Apple with the same obsessive vengence that people put down Bill Gates and Microsoft.)

    Despite the flaws along the way, the world has moved on to a better place and our lives are forever enriched by what Bill Gates brought to the world. Yes their are others who are significant and important in this technological growth, but it was Bill Gates who led the march.

    I am so sick of hearing people bashing Bill Gates and Microsoft, as if he were the devil incarnate or a total fool – take your pick. Actually, please don’t. It is not cool. It is really rather boring and stale. There are too many important things that need to be changed in this world than to keep harping on some mistakes Gates made while improving each one of our lives.

    Bill Gates and Microsoft have changed the way we all live. I, for one, say Thank You, Bill Gates.

    (stepping off the soapbox and putting it away now. ;} Thanks of letting me get this off my chest. I’m off to get my zzzzs now.)

    Peace, y’all

  33. Looked it over when I saw the first article on PC Pitstop, thought about it, and then decided that I still like Avant Browser better. It really “cooks” and loads so quickly, and is very secure. No ever talks much about it, but I am delighted to have it. Makes Firefox look like a Senior Citizen, and as I am one, I know what that looks like. Yes, I remember the “old days” and I mourn the loss of lots of stuff. But I don’t think Chrome has got it “down pat” quite yet. And no one every mentions where Bill got some of his ideas that he “borrowed” from Apple. As much as I love my PC, I’m still a Mac fan for lots of reasons. But I hate Firefox 3 and IE 8. It’s Avant for me!!

  34. Ron (and others), thanks for trying to set the record straight. Microsoft’s impact on computing has been HUGE and mostly positive. It’s too easy to bash Microsoft. We used to bash IBM when mini-computers were becoming popular (1970’s). Soon we’ll be doing the same to Google – as they say in Holland: “The tallest trees catch the most wind”.

    I’m happy to see another browser entering the market place. But I’ll wait a year or so before trying it. I had tried Firefox a couple of years ago and it had too many problems. I recently installed it and was amazed how much better it is than IE7.

    Let’s hope Chrome will improve on Firefox.

  35. Installed Chrome a few weeks ago and find it the browser of choice for me, because I live in a place where the ISPs are lousy and there is no choice. It is much quicker to load a page than Firefox 3 and does not time out. Main drawback is I am involved with a Wetpaint site and I am short of edit options in Chrome. Wetpaint says it is based on Safari. True?

  36. Everybody’s just upset that they weren’t the ones who could come out on top like Bill did. The man is a genius……chrome or no chrome, he knew how to market what he had.

  37. However it needs a Google Toolbar or the Google Toolbar functions before most people will want to use it as their main browser..

  38. Why can’t you people just get to the point here. Chrome Is No Ordinary Browser. Just what in the [edited by admin] do you mean? And if it a web browser then shere it with every one else………………….

  39. Theres really only one thing to say about this. Google has been doing things right up till now. So why should chrome be any different and why would we expect anything less than that from the google community.

  40. “That’s my ten cents worth!”

    Boy – that’s invlation – all my life I had heard it as, “my two cents worth” 🙂

    Yup, everyone likes to pick on the top dog but the above is correct – Bill may not have invented or written it all but he sure was able to get it together and get it to the masses at a price they could afford.

    Can you even think what a computer would cost today if IBM had gotten Bill’s operating system way back when and where the whole internet world would be? Can you say, “non-exsisting as we know it?

    Virutally every single one of us can turn out a better hamburger than Mickie D’s – so why are they number one all over the world? – jb

  41. Hey Bigfred

    I’ve tried it on a couple of what I consider older systems. They both have XP installed and are more than 2 years old. What sort of system are you using that it won’t install on?

  42. Ron Says
    Consider the computing power we have on our desktops today and the fact we are globally connected in multiple ways; we have Microsoft to thank for that

    I beg to differ with you Ron.

    Microsoft used their muscle to get their hands on NCSA Mosaic developed at the University of Illinois and turned it into IE. The nine people involved in the development of Mosaic are the ones who truley changed the world as we know it.

  43. It’s amazing how soon so many of us forget what we were doing with our computers 20 years or so ago. In January 1987, I thought I was a “power user” with my Tandy 1000 SX with 640K of RAM, no hard drive and two 5 1/4″ floppy disk drives (back when they were really floppy!). Consider the computing power we have on our desktops today and the fact we are globally connected in multiple ways; we have Microsoft to thank for that. Others may have innovated but it’s not innovation that made computing ubiquitous. Think of where the automobile would be were it not for Henry Ford. He didn’t invent the automobile but he made it accessible to the masses. We geeks may sit here and pick Microsoft apart but we’d still be a little known, little understand sub-class in society if Microsoft hadn’t made computing easier and more accessible to billions around the world. Did they throw their weight around? Certainly! I’m not naive about the nature of business; it’s about making money and beating the competition. Remember when Google was everyone’s darling? Now I’m reading a lot of the same stuff about them that people usually say about Microsoft. It’s business, folks. I, for one, am grateful for the amount of power and capability I can buy for my desktop. It makes me, a little guy, competitive with the big guys in the consulting arena. Other home-based and small businesses can say the same thing. I’ve had my moments with Microsoft but I realize that telecommuting, free Internet video calls to anywhere in the world, instantaneous communication, and so many other things that have made my life easier wouldn’t be here if Microsoft didn’t create the market for them. That’s my ten cents worth!

  44. Unbelievable. I’m sorry, PCPitstop, but you need to get some people that actually know what they’re talking about. This guy can’t even get the history of Bill Gates, or Sandboxing, or ANYTHING right!

    About Chrome: it certainly has potential, but until it receives some updates, extensions, and whatnot, I’m sticking with the best browser there is, and that’s Firefox 3.0.1, thank you very much. 😀

  45. You said “Sandboxing is a relatively new approach to security for programs and specifically browsers”.

    It’s relatively new for programs only if you ignore 30 years or so of computing history. Isolation of programs so that they can’t screw up each other dates back to at least the 1960’s. It is one of Bill’s “innovations” that let they CAN screw each other up.

  46. Amid the euphoria about Chrome … have you checked what it’s doing inside your PC?

    I had a problem using it to type into Forums – the edit box is terrible. It’s not just that line ends lose themselves and get flickery (easier to see than describe) but words in the middle can render wrong when you backspace. That makes it unusable for me.

    So I uninstalled it, waiting for the fixes to appear. A couple of hours later, up popped a ZoneAlarm warning that GoogleUpdater is trying to access the Internet. It seems that removing the program left several bits behind. More significantly, they can’t be seen in file explorer (even with “show hidden files”) – but are there: “Search” finds them. The main one was running, and I killed it. I had to go into “virus removal mode” (using Knoppix) to get rid of it.

    Anything that doesn’t uninstall completely when told to, and leaves hidden bits that try to contact “home base” when you aren’t looking is [i]verboten[/i] in my world.

  47. “Without all the bloat Chrome is able to function more efficiently, resulting in faster computing for the memory challenged or older systems.”

    Obviously written by someone who never attempted to run Chrome on an older system. It won’t even install.

  48. Mostly MS is and always has been crap. In no other area of life could the consumer be persuaded to buy goods which are poor quality, use too much resource, is remarkably slow and inefficient in use and with one or two exceptions the several far more efficient competitors have been driven to the wall. I still remember how much better than MS the Acorn OS was compared to MS in those far off days – now sadly gone forever.

  49. My excitement at the news of a Google created browser wained not long after installing Chrome but at least I recognised the potential to come, and I’m sure it will.
    However, Chrome has a long way to go to match the speed, flexability and options of Opera browser.
    There is a dearth of Menu options. The ‘Most Visited’ page is frustrating and tries to emulate Opera’s similar page, ‘Speed Dial’ to which one can add (from a drop down list of visted sites) or remove web web address easily.
    Chrom’s ‘Most Visited’ page adds pages willey-nilly and one can’t remove a link from those added. Well, not without removing the all, the desired ones as well as the others.
    But still, it’s in BETA mode still, and a Google product so no doubt it will will improve hugely in time.
    The ability to run individual Tabs in their own ‘space’ – as it were – is a brialliant notion.
    I look forward to future releases and updates.

  50. I concur. Bill hasn’t came up with too many brilliant ideas, he was just in position to introduce them to the public and capitalize on their popularity. (DOS, Windows, IE, Office)all these products existed before Bill got his hands on them.

  51. “In the beginning Bill created the operating system with browser, and he saw that it was good.”

    Ummm nope he didn’t.

    He saw Netscape and saw the future, then proceeded to do everything in the book, including breaking the law to displace Netscape, with a very bad and buggy browser that was not good 😆

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