Something you should really keep in mind is that video cards may be ATI or Nvidia but the manufacturer makes or breaks the card as a whole. Just because the GPU mounted on the card is an ATI or Nvidia means little. If the card was manufactured poorly by what ever company then the card will run like crap.

If you want an accurate depiction of what each card is actually about you would need to go find test results where an ATI card manufactured by ATI solely was tested against an Nvidia card manufactured by Nvidia solely with both cards being tested on an identicle set up under identicle conditions. Otherwise you cannot tell which chip is actually better with any accuracy.

Looks like a pretty thorough Test to me , I think that it is better than 3dm06 , personally , because it is more graphics based ,…

I base my opinions on actual use, benchmarks, experiences in dealing with the various companies, educated discussions with my peers, etc. Based on 30+ years of professional experience in microprocessing, microelectronics and communications, I've seen the industry from its beginnings (before the first 300baud Hayes modem); I've also had the enjoyable experience of watching it develop into what it is today (all of the companies starting up, falling on their faces, surviving, fading away, etc. Sorry, I digress…

Overall, NVidia and NVidia-based graphic cards are a better buy than ATI; you need to pay a lot more $ for high-end hardware, but that's to be expected. More support, more driver updates and a larger owner/user-base, not to mention better customer service (PNY is a good source and they've been around for years). No matter what you choose, if you're wanting high-end performance, you'll need to first base a system around a solid motherboard and CPU combination that are matched for each other's use together and that can run circles around your add-ons. In addition, you must also buy a power supply that provides more than is needed by at least 50%; in most cases that'll mean you start with 1000W and go up. (Here's an address for those who aren't sure about their systems' power needs; refer to the Recommended Power Supply Wattage Calculator at http://support.asus.com/PowerSupplyCalculator/PSCalculator.aspx?SLanguage=en-us and it should let you know better than just guessing. An example of power needs, take PCIex16 SLI cards. Two of them and you'll need 1000W to begin with! Rember, all kinds of odd things can/will occur when your power supply is only marginal and benchmarking of any type will result in totally inaccurate outcomes.

Anyway, that's all I got for now, gotta run!

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My nvidia 7800 GTX out performs them all according to the pc online test results. but only using the older drivers not the newer ones…"

That would be an interesting glitch. I'm curious to see your results for comparison. I have a 7900GTX TDH Extreme that beats every other 7900 or 7800 that I've seen to date in any benchmark, and it sits about where it should on the Pitstop tests.