Comments on: Google and the Price of Oil http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/ Bring your PC back to life Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:05:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Gracie http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-6943 Gracie Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:12:45 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-6943 It sounds like you're creating problems yourself by trying to solve this issue instead of looking at why their is a problem in the first place It sounds like you're creating problems yourself by trying to solve this issue instead of looking at why their is a problem in the first place

]]> By: Chris http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-4948 Chris Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:35:34 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-4948 Ha, fun to read this article. :D I almost never use Google, nor do I use Gmail or any other of their services. I also have a very effective ad-block, Google ads are never displayed on my screen. Often on other sites, there are small empty spaces where it says with small print "Google ads", or something similar. Corporations can just continue to put money in Google's pockets. They aren't reaching me and other users with ad-blockers. The ad-free internet is a joy. :) Quote: "Don Says: June 20th, 2008 at 10:20 am Hi, I'm afraid that I no longer use Google because of the amount of data that they collect (....) Ditch Google That's What I Say." I totally agree! Ha, fun to read this article. :D

I almost never use Google, nor do I use Gmail or any other of their services.

I also have a very effective ad-block, Google ads are never displayed on my screen. Often on other sites, there are small empty spaces where it says with small print "Google ads", or something similar.

Corporations can just continue to put money in Google's pockets. They aren't reaching me and other users with ad-blockers.

The ad-free internet is a joy. :)

Quote:
"Don Says:
June 20th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Hi, I'm afraid that I no longer use Google because of the amount of data that they collect (….) Ditch Google That's What I Say."

I totally agree!

]]> By: Paul Van den Bossche http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1941 Paul Van den Bossche Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:31:23 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1941 Google search engine Google earth Google maps Google email (gmail) etc. Now just be honnest : Does anybody know BETTER alternatives for these kinda programs ? And I mean FREE programs that run stable and are extremely useful and easy-to-use for everybody? Let's not bitch, but be thankful ... Just compare the prize for what we get from Google and what we get from MS... For the companies that use/pay for the ads : I guess that a google ad is still worth it's money... I'm just hoping/praying that one day google will come up with a serious OS that laughs at the dragons that MS makes lately. And I wouldn't mind that there's a few (relevant) ads that save me from paying a couple of hundreds for an OS that s*cks... Right ? Google search engine
Google earth
Google maps
Google email (gmail)
etc.

Now just be honnest : Does anybody know BETTER alternatives for these kinda programs ? And I mean FREE programs that run stable and are extremely useful and easy-to-use for everybody?
Let's not bitch, but be thankful … Just compare the prize for what we get from Google and what we get from MS…
For the companies that use/pay for the ads : I guess that a google ad is still worth it's money…
I'm just hoping/praying that one day google will come up with a serious OS that laughs at the dragons that MS makes lately. And I wouldn't mind that there's a few (relevant) ads that save me from paying a couple of hundreds for an OS that s*cks…
Right ?

]]> By: Pops http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1915 Pops Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:33:38 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1915 I have stopped using Goggle for any searching whatsoever just because of the fact that when I search for something I get the same site multiple times and it is a big hassle and very frustrating. so I use Yahoo primarily for any searching. True Microsoft would just eleminate Yahoo if they had of bought it. I have stopped using Goggle for any searching whatsoever just because of the fact that when I search for something I get the same site multiple times and it is a big hassle and very frustrating. so I use Yahoo primarily for any searching. True Microsoft would just eleminate Yahoo if they had of bought it.

]]> By: Pete http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1893 Pete Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:09:56 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1893 To dark41: people pay for ads because they get a return from them. The organic side of my web-site does well - ranking in the top five for all terms that I care about. Yet I pay Pay per click prices because it brings me additional busines. There's nothing like being on the same page multiple times. Oh, by the way. For those complaining at the cost - have you looked at other media costs. Print, TV, Video, etc. At least in my business, the returns aren't nearly as good. To dark41: people pay for ads because they get a return from them. The organic side of my web-site does well – ranking in the top five for all terms that I care about. Yet I pay Pay per click prices because it brings me additional busines. There's nothing like being on the same page multiple times.

Oh, by the way. For those complaining at the cost – have you looked at other media costs. Print, TV, Video, etc. At least in my business, the returns aren't nearly as good.

]]> By: AySz88 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1892 AySz88 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:52:15 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1892 Unfortunately for you advertisers, Google protects its trade secrets, which is sensible because it's so good (as you describe yourself). But you at least know the basics, right? (It's a multi-item auction, Google maximizes revenue, placement is based on total revenue = click rate * price per click, not just on price per click, etc.) I'm not sure you'll be very satisfied with the answer if Google were to open up - you'll probably just see that everyone else with (average) higher placement is paying more (in terms of total revenue to Google). I know that one way to improve things for you is to improve the quality of your ad such that more people click on it. Then Google gets more money (due to more clicks), you get higher placement (since Google wants to maximize the number of people clicking the ads), you can drop your price per click slightly (Google only cares about increased revenue, and you already increased the revenue to Google by more clicks, so you can pull back some of that per click), and it's relatively win-win. I guess the only hope, beyond that, is to hope Google gets some competent competition one day. Unfortunately for you advertisers, Google protects its trade secrets, which is sensible because it's so good (as you describe yourself). But you at least know the basics, right? (It's a multi-item auction, Google maximizes revenue, placement is based on total revenue = click rate * price per click, not just on price per click, etc.)

I'm not sure you'll be very satisfied with the answer if Google were to open up – you'll probably just see that everyone else with (average) higher placement is paying more (in terms of total revenue to Google).

I know that one way to improve things for you is to improve the quality of your ad such that more people click on it. Then Google gets more money (due to more clicks), you get higher placement (since Google wants to maximize the number of people clicking the ads), you can drop your price per click slightly (Google only cares about increased revenue, and you already increased the revenue to Google by more clicks, so you can pull back some of that per click), and it's relatively win-win.

I guess the only hope, beyond that, is to hope Google gets some competent competition one day.

]]> By: GaryB http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1884 GaryB Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:11:24 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1884 While I do use Google regularly, I always, always delete any of their cookies and temp files left behind. While I'm sure they still have info on me, I don't think they can target ads to me. While I do use Google regularly, I always, always delete any of their cookies and temp files left behind. While I'm sure they still have info on me, I don't think they can target ads to me.

]]> By: Don http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1864 Don Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:20:57 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1864 Hi, I'm afraid that I no longer use Google because of the amount of data that they collect about companies that use them, But not only that but even the people that use google to search for items/information, they then pass-on that information to third parties. I don't like my details spread about, Ditch Google That's What I Say. regards Don Hi, I'm afraid that I no longer use Google because of the amount of data that they collect about companies that use them, But not only that but even the people that use google to search for items/information, they then pass-on that information to third parties. I don't like my details spread about, Ditch Google That's What I Say. regards Don

]]> By: dark41 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1844 dark41 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:33:04 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1844 I tend to agree that MS had no intention of making Yahoo any better. It was all about eliminating competition. But then the author really has no clue about gas prices either. While AU is paying for 100% imported oil/gasoline, their gas prices have gone up $.20/liter while the USA has gone up $2.00/gallon. Who uses Google ads anyway? I intentionally stay away from them. Seems funny to me that anyone would pay to have ads listed on a search engine. I can't feel sorry for someone silly enough to rely upon search engines for business. :) I tend to agree that MS had no intention of making Yahoo any better. It was all about eliminating competition.

But then the author really has no clue about gas prices either. While AU is paying for 100% imported oil/gasoline, their gas prices have gone up $.20/liter while the USA has gone up $2.00/gallon.

Who uses Google ads anyway? I intentionally stay away from them. Seems funny to me that anyone would pay to have ads listed on a search engine. I can't feel sorry for someone silly enough to rely upon search engines for business. :)

]]> By: Dave http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1828 Dave Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:04:12 +0000 http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/06/16/google-and-the-price-of-oil/#comment-1828 We're damed if we don't and sorry if we do. We're damed if we don't and sorry if we do.

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