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		<title>By: Helpdesk98</title>
		<link>http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/04/03/windows-98-turns-70-in-dog-years/#comment-6682</link>
		<dc:creator>Helpdesk98</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows 98 is still great to use. I am currently running 98SE with several modifications to the system. I run KernelEX to run XP only programs (FireFox 3 ect) My 98 is skined to look like XP (this dosent hurt my prefomence) I have Unoffical SP3 on it it is awsome! The setups are not to hard to preforme you can get some of these patches at www.msfn.org/ you can look at my blog and see what my 98 looks like. http://helpdesk98.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows 98 is still great to use. I am currently running 98SE with several modifications to the system. I run KernelEX to run XP only programs (FireFox 3 ect) My 98 is skined to look like XP (this dosent hurt my prefomence) I have Unoffical SP3 on it it is awsome! The setups are not to hard to preforme you can get some of these patches at <a href="http://www.msfn.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msfn.org/</a> you can look at my blog and see what my 98 looks like. <a href="http://helpdesk98.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://helpdesk98.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Herdman</title>
		<link>http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/04/03/windows-98-turns-70-in-dog-years/#comment-3004</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Herdman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt, I have a pretty new Vista laptop, and it takes just a few seconds faster to boot than a brand new XP install.  Both are fully patched, and the XP install is straight from an OEM media disc (the laptop is an Asus G2S B2, with a lot of the Asus stuff stripped away), and both have almost identical processors (e6600 in one, t7700 the laptop; laptop has 3 GB memory, XP machine has 2).

Before that, that XP install made the hard drive make lots of noise and pause for a while as the result of years of aborted profiles (going back to 2005!), so this is really based on whether you&#039;re treating your OS right.

Anyway, one of the many little things that makes older OSes hard to bear after Vista is the newly corrected GUI support for variable size fonts.  Try making text bigger in any pre-Vista OS - it&#039;s a freakin&#039; nightmare. On Vista, you can do it easily; and you can make it as big as old or young eyes require. As a result, you have your big 1600x1200 (or 1920x1200 for that laptop) screen size and you can keep your vision.

That alone makes it worthwhile - but then we have features like nearly performance impact-free thumbnails, even thumbnails on folders, and a great file replace dialog that will give you all the relevant information to decide whether to replace the old copy, or rename the new copy, or skip it altogether; and you can set it to do that same action on the whole folder when you&#039;re certain you&#039;ve made the right choice. When it comes to the next folder it asks you again.

No doubt there&#039;s some non-freeware method of getting even Windows98 to act like that, but this is actually integrated with the OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt, I have a pretty new Vista laptop, and it takes just a few seconds faster to boot than a brand new XP install.  Both are fully patched, and the XP install is straight from an OEM media disc (the laptop is an Asus G2S B2, with a lot of the Asus stuff stripped away), and both have almost identical processors (e6600 in one, t7700 the laptop; laptop has 3 GB memory, XP machine has 2).</p>
<p>Before that, that XP install made the hard drive make lots of noise and pause for a while as the result of years of aborted profiles (going back to 2005!), so this is really based on whether you&#039;re treating your OS right.</p>
<p>Anyway, one of the many little things that makes older OSes hard to bear after Vista is the newly corrected GUI support for variable size fonts.  Try making text bigger in any pre-Vista OS &#8211; it&#039;s a freakin&#039; nightmare. On Vista, you can do it easily; and you can make it as big as old or young eyes require. As a result, you have your big 1600&#215;1200 (or 1920&#215;1200 for that laptop) screen size and you can keep your vision.</p>
<p>That alone makes it worthwhile &#8211; but then we have features like nearly performance impact-free thumbnails, even thumbnails on folders, and a great file replace dialog that will give you all the relevant information to decide whether to replace the old copy, or rename the new copy, or skip it altogether; and you can set it to do that same action on the whole folder when you&#039;re certain you&#039;ve made the right choice. When it comes to the next folder it asks you again.</p>
<p>No doubt there&#039;s some non-freeware method of getting even Windows98 to act like that, but this is actually integrated with the OS.</p>
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		<title>By: erichansa</title>
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		<dc:creator>erichansa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually 20</description>
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		<title>By: zeeol</title>
		<link>http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/04/03/windows-98-turns-70-in-dog-years/#comment-2711</link>
		<dc:creator>zeeol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my first pc is win98 with a 486 P90 CPU which is worth of a Dua Core of today.
I have used XP for 5 years and find it is just wonderful. Maybe I am old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my first pc is win98 with a 486 P90 CPU which is worth of a Dua Core of today.<br />
I have used XP for 5 years and find it is just wonderful. Maybe I am old.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/04/03/windows-98-turns-70-in-dog-years/#comment-2511</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about that! I googled the internet for &quot;win 98 pc&quot; and ended up here. I never expected to find a &quot;contemporary&quot; site.
Anyway...I googled because somebody is getting rid of his 98 machine, and he&#039;s throwing it my way. As it has been a while, i wanted to see what kind of hardware (processor, mainboard,GPU...) I might be expecting. I don&#039;t expect to get much, considering I&#039;m trying (and failing) to keep up with OS&#039;es and hardware. I assembled a brand new QuadCore to run Vista, and I&#039;m happy. I&#039;m getting used to it anyway. Due to circumstances, I ended up with a second, simular QuadCore and I really had to hurry to get an XP pro for it. I didn&#039;t want to run Vista on that one.
I think the Vista PC takes about a minute, minute and a half longer to boot. In all fairness, the XP PC isn&#039;t &#039;fully loaded&#039; yet. I&#039;m not running a lot of programs on it thus far. But still... you tend to notice stuff like that if you have them side by side.
Anyway...as for previous OS&#039;es,... I remember trying to install an early Win 95 a while back on a AMD sempron. It worked, &#039;till I tried to connect to the internet. The things I didn&#039;t have to do to get that working! :-( ... Come to think of it, I never tried Firefox on that machine. Anyway, the experiment was a success, everything worked fine, even the familiar reboots and crashes :-) That pc ran Win2000 for a while after that.
Anyway, my two cents... when XP showed up for the first time, it was the same thing. It needed a lot more resources, lot&#039;s more memory, hard disk space,... it crashed on several pc&#039;s and what have you not. And now, people a signing petitions to keep it alive. Give Vista a chance. If you turn on the &quot;classic theme&quot; it looks just like XP anyway. I haven&#039;t had a single crash since I installed it in December last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about that! I googled the internet for &#034;win 98 pc&#034; and ended up here. I never expected to find a &#034;contemporary&#034; site.<br />
Anyway&#8230;I googled because somebody is getting rid of his 98 machine, and he&#039;s throwing it my way. As it has been a while, i wanted to see what kind of hardware (processor, mainboard,GPU&#8230;) I might be expecting. I don&#039;t expect to get much, considering I&#039;m trying (and failing) to keep up with OS&#039;es and hardware. I assembled a brand new QuadCore to run Vista, and I&#039;m happy. I&#039;m getting used to it anyway. Due to circumstances, I ended up with a second, simular QuadCore and I really had to hurry to get an XP pro for it. I didn&#039;t want to run Vista on that one.<br />
I think the Vista PC takes about a minute, minute and a half longer to boot. In all fairness, the XP PC isn&#039;t &#039;fully loaded&#039; yet. I&#039;m not running a lot of programs on it thus far. But still&#8230; you tend to notice stuff like that if you have them side by side.<br />
Anyway&#8230;as for previous OS&#039;es,&#8230; I remember trying to install an early Win 95 a while back on a AMD sempron. It worked, &#039;till I tried to connect to the internet. The things I didn&#039;t have to do to get that working! <img src='http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; Come to think of it, I never tried Firefox on that machine. Anyway, the experiment was a success, everything worked fine, even the familiar reboots and crashes <img src='http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  That pc ran Win2000 for a while after that.<br />
Anyway, my two cents&#8230; when XP showed up for the first time, it was the same thing. It needed a lot more resources, lot&#039;s more memory, hard disk space,&#8230; it crashed on several pc&#039;s and what have you not. And now, people a signing petitions to keep it alive. Give Vista a chance. If you turn on the &#034;classic theme&#034; it looks just like XP anyway. I haven&#039;t had a single crash since I installed it in December last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... if you put vista to a pc with 4gb ram it will be for sure much faster. this is the situation for windows 98, it just simply was not designed for a pc equipped with that much of ram memory and that fast processor ;) the test was pretty unrealistic.
you cannot make a race with a windows 98 and windows vista in a 2008 computer environment. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; if you put vista to a pc with 4gb ram it will be for sure much faster. this is the situation for windows 98, it just simply was not designed for a pc equipped with that much of ram memory and that fast processor <img src='http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  the test was pretty unrealistic.<br />
you cannot make a race with a windows 98 and windows vista in a 2008 computer environment. <img src='http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sunny beach</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty ridiculous for them to &quot;expect&quot; Vista to run better than 98 or XP. XP does a little better because it improved on the underlying core of the OS, but Vista is a newer OS with new features built on that same core, so it was made with the expectation that it would be running on newer hardware. 

If you ran Mac OS 9 on a new Macbook, I doubt anyone would be impressed that it runs really well.

I still don&#039;t like Vista, but they&#039;re not really offering some shocking revelation here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s pretty ridiculous for them to &#034;expect&#034; Vista to run better than 98 or XP. XP does a little better because it improved on the underlying core of the OS, but Vista is a newer OS with new features built on that same core, so it was made with the expectation that it would be running on newer hardware. </p>
<p>If you ran Mac OS 9 on a new Macbook, I doubt anyone would be impressed that it runs really well.</p>
<p>I still don&#039;t like Vista, but they&#039;re not really offering some shocking revelation here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This test really isnt fair. You ran vista gimped on memory. Saying a new os that is optimized to run on current equipment loses to windows 98 is not fair. If you could have benchmarked dos, dos would have won. 

I work quite a bit with vista at work and we run it decently well on older machines but the minimum ram we install is 1 gig for standard users and 2 gigs for people that use lots of diffrent or special software. The main problem on the older laptop is that the old 5400 ata mini laptop drives really choke on the indexing stuff.


I have had vista on my laptop since the RCs when it launched at first i found it kinda buggy and slow. Now since sp1 i dont think i have ever had a single problem with speed or crashing. People that complain vista is too slow on a new machine might have some problems with the machines themselves. Its true windows xp will always outperform vista in speed tests. However in most cases id say that the performance diffrence on new computers wouldnt be really noticable to standard users. 

The fact that vista defragments the drive automaticaly and the more granular control we have over administrator priveledges (which prevents people from getting spyware at all) means that the vista machines in our it infrastructure maintain a very constant performance. Our XP machines would often after 6 months be full of spyware and the drives would be fragmented and they would run like mollases. 

For the Home user vista is not really worth it. Most of vista&#039;s good features are aimed directly at enterprise use. Bitlocker, Image bassed installations, UAC. This is where vista shines but to most home users all those 3 things are completely useless.


I can personally say that vista has benefited our company greatly. I did a vista deployment to a 450 users across 3 sites with 1 image. 1 image to maintain,1 image to rule them all. 2 of our 3 sites are made up of mostly french users the other is english, 2/3 sites are made up of all ibm/lenovo the last one is using half HP and half lenovo.
The idea that i can cover this kind of enterprise with 1 image is incredibly timesaving.

 We did a survey after the migration on 2 key factors, Speed and functionality the overal results were over 85% satisfaction which is a big win when dealing with a product that has so much negative press. 

Well anyway. Im starting to feel like a dirty dirty microsoft whore now so il just stop here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This test really isnt fair. You ran vista gimped on memory. Saying a new os that is optimized to run on current equipment loses to windows 98 is not fair. If you could have benchmarked dos, dos would have won. </p>
<p>I work quite a bit with vista at work and we run it decently well on older machines but the minimum ram we install is 1 gig for standard users and 2 gigs for people that use lots of diffrent or special software. The main problem on the older laptop is that the old 5400 ata mini laptop drives really choke on the indexing stuff.</p>
<p>I have had vista on my laptop since the RCs when it launched at first i found it kinda buggy and slow. Now since sp1 i dont think i have ever had a single problem with speed or crashing. People that complain vista is too slow on a new machine might have some problems with the machines themselves. Its true windows xp will always outperform vista in speed tests. However in most cases id say that the performance diffrence on new computers wouldnt be really noticable to standard users. </p>
<p>The fact that vista defragments the drive automaticaly and the more granular control we have over administrator priveledges (which prevents people from getting spyware at all) means that the vista machines in our it infrastructure maintain a very constant performance. Our XP machines would often after 6 months be full of spyware and the drives would be fragmented and they would run like mollases. </p>
<p>For the Home user vista is not really worth it. Most of vista&#039;s good features are aimed directly at enterprise use. Bitlocker, Image bassed installations, UAC. This is where vista shines but to most home users all those 3 things are completely useless.</p>
<p>I can personally say that vista has benefited our company greatly. I did a vista deployment to a 450 users across 3 sites with 1 image. 1 image to maintain,1 image to rule them all. 2 of our 3 sites are made up of mostly french users the other is english, 2/3 sites are made up of all ibm/lenovo the last one is using half HP and half lenovo.<br />
The idea that i can cover this kind of enterprise with 1 image is incredibly timesaving.</p>
<p> We did a survey after the migration on 2 key factors, Speed and functionality the overal results were over 85% satisfaction which is a big win when dealing with a product that has so much negative press. </p>
<p>Well anyway. Im starting to feel like a dirty dirty microsoft whore now so il just stop here.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a similar test to this in an Algorithms &amp; Analysis class in college just a few months ago. We compared Windows XP, Windows Vista, and a release of Debian Linux (Linspire 5.00). The benchmark was a number of different sorts on a some-odd million number array. Interestingly, Windows XP and Linux went back and forth, but were always right in line with each other in performance...Vista? Horrible. I had to make my Excel graphs bigger so you could see the line spin off into outer space on the Y-axis for &quot;time&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a similar test to this in an Algorithms &amp; Analysis class in college just a few months ago. We compared Windows XP, Windows Vista, and a release of Debian Linux (Linspire 5.00). The benchmark was a number of different sorts on a some-odd million number array. Interestingly, Windows XP and Linux went back and forth, but were always right in line with each other in performance&#8230;Vista? Horrible. I had to make my Excel graphs bigger so you could see the line spin off into outer space on the Y-axis for &#034;time&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth E. Ness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth E. Ness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Vista is made for modern hardware and so will use up more resources itself.  That is why you should run XP for gaming and system intensive things like a server.  But, of course, Micro$oft doesn&#039;t want you to do that.  In the case of gaming, they limited DirectX 10 to Vista.  For businesses, Windows XP isn&#039;t supported anymore.  Their actions simply don&#039;t line up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Vista is made for modern hardware and so will use up more resources itself.  That is why you should run XP for gaming and system intensive things like a server.  But, of course, Micro$oft doesn&#039;t want you to do that.  In the case of gaming, they limited DirectX 10 to Vista.  For businesses, Windows XP isn&#039;t supported anymore.  Their actions simply don&#039;t line up.</p>
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